03 modern 0206 schleiermacher #podcast

Sinner saved by grace. Recently uploading some tidbits about historical theology. #podcast transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fws2maZYK-XTHmeZCv_p5dRJd81o1N9R75AiSSFfBsc https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RVOhSsU-9XeZZ2smO6-8J5hatkc20jjHqwydKqpiJ0M Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11nZEvSa4E5m4F3S2-0oBD8nKFkFcCdhRMqNDnWDW0dE/ Work of Christ (atonement) Person & Work mutually dependent 3 theologians made this connection: 1. 100s: Irenaeus 2. 300s: Athanasius 3. 1000s: Anselm contextualize within larger discussion. i.e. list what we're not going to cover e.g. PSA vs liberalism,... Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11iRt4j2tX7Lyv2nSMgtCAVBFqv5LvRY_oPfh7Eb9_KY/ Docetism was earliest heresy. 1 John 4:2 and 2 John 1:7. "many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus as coming in the flesh have gone out into the world." Ignatius in 100 A.D. "he ate" etc. Docetism comes from the Greek word for "appear" "They only appear... The two points articulated by the Nicene Fathers were that Jesus is Eternal with God and the same essence as God. The Arians said “there once was when he was not.” They argued: 1. John 3:16 says Jesus was begotten. 2. They translated Colossians 1:15 to say Jesus was the firstborn of all creation 3. if Jesus is the wisdom of God, and the Greek vers... Sometimes when we study church history we are projecting into a certain time a request for information on what they thought during that time. But for christology when we are asking what happened, we are really asking for the main storyline of that era. And sometimes this happens and you can be interested in a topic and it is the main theologica... Drive Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1RHx0dQXlUaFXM-9U4LA97EP9AvOXsabqeUkg9lPi8/edit?usp=sharing Jesus is ... the man who is God fully God fully man one person two Natures two wills. Mostly shaped within 4th and 5th centuries. "two wills" (7) is implied in "two natures" (6) "the man who is God" (1&2) is implied in "fully... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ztvF8zj0I-vrHfwK4XqnyTG1h9b1ZIf4i53Pel0VeCM Scripture in modernity. Inerrancy, Inspiration, Interpretation Enlightenment (17th & 18th) Schleirmacher (1800) Darwin's Origin of Species (1859) Vatican I (1869) Princeton: B.B. Warfield (Post Civil War) Karl Barth (WW1 and WW2) Infallibility, Fuller Battle for the Bi... So we’ve said He’s the man who is God, fully God fully man, one person two natures two wills. That middle part there that says: “fully God, fully man. One person, two natures” That’s actually a short summary of the four churchwide councils held during the Christian Roman Empire. Nicea, Constantinople, Ephesus, and Chalcedon. And I don’t know if thi... 3 giants of the faith, misunderstood: 1. Athie: Word of God "clothed in flesh" Younger ally, Apollinaris: Divine mind. 2. G Naz: "Predicate the … expressions" Student 2 gens later, Nestorius: Predicate the person. 3. Cyril. "One incarnate nature of the divine Logos." Younger ally, Eutyches: New nature not the same as ours Same sort of teach... Drive Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XP_d2DX9-EEWPe-sxe2bi-5JKyP_bQf9wLelzH2W1nA Recorder Playalong: https://recorder.google.com/19124c54-722e-4754-9cb2-dfc20e0a396c Docetism, earliest heresy. 1 John 4:2 & 2 John 1:7 Many deceivers do not acknowledge Jesus as coming in the flesh Ignatius, 100AD "he ate" Docetism means "appear", i.e... Drive Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QjTUctTPbgavYxd_Mq3mRBDiCU0DUIDmnINH4VFaKnw/edit?usp=sharing Recorder Playalong: https://recorder.google.com/share/19124c54-722e-4754-9cb2-dfc20e0a396c Ebionism denied that Jesus is God. Jewish origins 165 Justin Martyr, Melito of Sardis 185 Irenaeus of Lyon: Our salvation depends on it. This li... Transcript" https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mMTo6O7_Lq1LcSHmybxDNKcsDxE726lLARi3o-ygLAg Ignatius, 110 A.D. on his way to be martyred arguing against Docetism: He suffered all these things for our sakes that we might be saved Not trying to set up a model. The ANF (ante=pre Nicene Fathers) were under threat of Martyrdom. Justin and Origen wer... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gmaPI_77E3hGiOtQoysaEJ8pq9sLo_AXaBjsn6PpWxk One problem with us is salvation historical. So we have this sort of creed that we're going to use to walk through the first part of this class. This is not meant to be a systematic full orbed statement on christology. Rather it is intended to cover the chronological development of the doctrine for the first half millennium or so. We will spend more time on some than others. Particularly... Transcript: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vr9K6qDYSxNDUKk2MklG6a-LJ_REmdKN9WES1IzXRvs chapter 3 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1plfQSpdgHsQwZVrSYwVK7Lk1zgN7fifRgRZTQ9vcIP8 • the word “begotten” in John 3:16 is something that occurs from all eternity. Jesus is “begotten, not made.” • Colossians 1:15, the word “firstborn” simply indicates Jesus’ superiority. Athanasius: if the verse says “Jesus is the firstborn over all creation” then the verse actually distinguishes Jesus from creation • Athanasius on Proverbs 8: “... Constantinople: Jesus is fully man. body AND SOUL of a man. After Nicea, Athanasius still argued the deity of Christ against Arianism. One of Athanasius’ friends against the Arians, Apollinaris, explained it wrongly: “Jesus wrapped himself in a human body like putting on clothes but still retained the soul of the Eternal Word. Human flesh but divin... https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vr9K6qDYSxNDUKk2MklG6a-LJ_REmdKN9WES1IzXRvs/ Chapter 3.1